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Jul. 17th, 2017 07:11 pm
aethel: (killjoys the girl [by askpoison])
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Robots.txt meant for search engines don’t work well for web archives at Internet Archive

I was fiddling with the RPF pages on Fanlore, and it occurred to me that certain science fiction fandom practices might also have had an influence on Star Trek RPF, since Star Trek fandom was so indebted to sf fandom. SF fandom had faanfiction, where fans wrote stories about each other (I've never read one, so I don't know what these stories read like). Some pro authors did this too. Recently, I read a short story collection by Philip K. Dick that included a story about Poul Anderson getting kidnapped from a convention by people from the future. On the other hand, these practices may have more in common with self-insertion fic than RPF. I have no data to back this up beyond the plot of Visit to a Weird Planet. Has anyone ever written about this?

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Date: 2017-07-18 12:51 am (UTC)
cathexys: dark sphinx (default icon) (Default)
From: [personal profile] cathexys
I don't have anything on the direct influence, but I just read a great book on some of the early scifi culture in regard to race (and esp Josh Brandon) in andre carrington's Speculative Blackness.

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Date: 2017-07-20 02:32 pm (UTC)
cesy: "Cesy" - An old-fashioned quill and ink (Default)
From: [personal profile] cesy
Ooh, hooray for the Internet Archive changing it, though they could have handled it better still.

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Date: 2017-07-24 02:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] alchemia
I loathe sites that disrespect robots.txt's .... for gov't I can understand, those are public domain anyway, but not for anything else.

Besides robots.txt, i have written at the top of some webpages "do not archive" in BOLD text, yet some arse went and intro'd it to archive.is anyway, which I hadn't heard of until this; despite repeated removal requests, the pages are still up. Fanlore links to this place, which explicitly ignores fan creator's wishes, claiming they are above respecting the TOS of a creator's website. This could cause creators problems in personal life in the future if they need to take down/disassociate themselves from certain works.

Fanlore claims that personal ID and fan ID separation is supposed to be respected, but they allow the use of an archive that endangers fans in this very way. That REALLY lowers my opinion of fanlore.

Ugh and now I have like 5 sites that archive.org used to obey robots.txt for and now they have a bunch of old personal info up that shouldn't be- going against the agreement they made in the past - now I have to figure out how to get all those sites removed, like I don't have enough to do and not enough spooons. Thanks for alerting me to this disgusting violation. >:(
Edited Date: 2017-07-24 02:25 am (UTC)

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